Nothing really to add except that “Why I never called” is a great song. I’m not qualified to say it’s better than Raspberry Beret, but it pulled at my heart strings more.
I’ve adapted a few tricks for Sumo. I’ve been double AI’ing it, so to speak. I have chat GPT create the Lyrics after prompting it to a specific genre and feel. After editing the lyrics, I ask Chat GPT to give me the prompt for a custom Sumo. Copy, paste, and boom! My songs have gotten better and I have less lyric problems. Chat GPT will also give you the chorus prompts in parentheses. If you disagree, you can always edit.
Suno has been wonderful for me. Had some song ideas in my head but the learning curve to express them was too much. Now thanks to Suno, I've got a few newly created songs on my phone's playlist. Thank you for sharing this information.
Thanks to your post I used Suno for the first time and my first observation is that creating songs with Suno is very fun, almost addictive. This is from someone that barely made second trumpet in the school band, but did win a choral award in high school. So I’m definitely not tone deaf, but creating music is far beyond my ability. It is simply an amazing technology.
Just wondering about copywriting and the commercial value of the songs you created. Can you monetize them and do you own the rights? From what I understand, which isn’t much, it is very hard to actually own the rights to songs or other mediums created with AI.
Yes, you can monetize them if the terms of service permit, which varies from service to service. In the case of Suno, you own all the rights if you pay for a Pro or Premium account. You do not own anything if you are using a free account.
I have about 15 songs on Spotify and other music services that were generated by Suno. It's not an issue.
While there are some legal issues yet to be settled, the "look and feel" issue is not one of them since Apple lost that case in the 1990s. Most of the copyright talk spouted by artists and record labels is ignorant fiction based on a complete failure to understand how AI works or what "training" is.
Not directly — I can't natively edit or export files in Finale (.musx) or Sibelius (.sib) formats like I can with plain text or prose. However, here's what I can do:
✅ What I can do:
Write music in text-based notation formats:
MusicXML: A universal format that Finale, Sibelius, MuseScore, Dorico, and others can import.
LilyPond: A plain-text music engraving format. High quality, but has a steeper learning curve.
ABC notation: Simpler, used for folk music or quick sketches.
Create full scores in MusicXML:
You tell me instruments, key, meter, structure, and I’ll generate a score in MusicXML.
You can open this in Finale, Sibelius, MuseScore, or others.
Interpret and modify existing scores in text formats:
If you paste MusicXML, LilyPond, or ABC code, I can read, edit, or annotate it.
Convert textual description into music:
E.g., “Create a 4-bar melody for solo cello in G minor with syncopation in bar 3” → MusicXML/LilyPond.
❌ What I cannot do:
Open or edit .musx (Finale) or .sib (Sibelius) binary files directly.
Render sheet music directly inside this chat.
Hear or playback audio natively (but I can link you to tools that do).
If you're a Finale or Sibelius user:
You can:
Ask me to generate a MusicXML file.
Download it and open/import in Finale or Sibelius.
I have not tried, but Chat says, "Yes, I can generate music in MusicXML, LilyPond, or ABC notation, and you can easily convert any of those to MIDI using free tools like:
MuseScore (import MusicXML → export MIDI)
Frescobaldi (for LilyPond → MIDI)
abcMIDI (for ABC → MIDI)
If you want, just give me the description of the piece (instruments, key, tempo, etc.), and I’ll generate a MusicXML file you can turn into MIDI in two clicks."
Grok appeared to think AIVA’s prompt capability and library was more advanced than it was… although that could be because AIVA’s library for the free version is much smaller than for the paid. NotaGen is a GitHub app that’s more complicated to use. Haven’t tried Staccato yet.
As for asking them directly to generate MusicXML files, Claude can and Grok can’t. Unfortunately, MusicXML files are huge, requiring several lines of code for every single note, so Claude can only write a few bars before hitting its limit.
I don't know the appropriate place to ask. But can you do a post about who creates and how they create the AI thumbnails you use, that appear both here and unauthorized? They are neat and I am interested in AI images.
It’s fun to use and recreate hair Metal music. I love AI until it kills me. But it’s worth the trade.
Nothing really to add except that “Why I never called” is a great song. I’m not qualified to say it’s better than Raspberry Beret, but it pulled at my heart strings more.
I’ve adapted a few tricks for Sumo. I’ve been double AI’ing it, so to speak. I have chat GPT create the Lyrics after prompting it to a specific genre and feel. After editing the lyrics, I ask Chat GPT to give me the prompt for a custom Sumo. Copy, paste, and boom! My songs have gotten better and I have less lyric problems. Chat GPT will also give you the chorus prompts in parentheses. If you disagree, you can always edit.
Suno has been wonderful for me. Had some song ideas in my head but the learning curve to express them was too much. Now thanks to Suno, I've got a few newly created songs on my phone's playlist. Thank you for sharing this information.
Thanks to your post I used Suno for the first time and my first observation is that creating songs with Suno is very fun, almost addictive. This is from someone that barely made second trumpet in the school band, but did win a choral award in high school. So I’m definitely not tone deaf, but creating music is far beyond my ability. It is simply an amazing technology.
Just wondering about copywriting and the commercial value of the songs you created. Can you monetize them and do you own the rights? From what I understand, which isn’t much, it is very hard to actually own the rights to songs or other mediums created with AI.
Yes, you can monetize them if the terms of service permit, which varies from service to service. In the case of Suno, you own all the rights if you pay for a Pro or Premium account. You do not own anything if you are using a free account.
I have about 15 songs on Spotify and other music services that were generated by Suno. It's not an issue.
While there are some legal issues yet to be settled, the "look and feel" issue is not one of them since Apple lost that case in the 1990s. Most of the copyright talk spouted by artists and record labels is ignorant fiction based on a complete failure to understand how AI works or what "training" is.
Thanks Vox.
It would be cool if AI could write or edit musical notation scores (Finale, Sibelius) the way it can do it for prose.
Chat 4o says:
Not directly — I can't natively edit or export files in Finale (.musx) or Sibelius (.sib) formats like I can with plain text or prose. However, here's what I can do:
✅ What I can do:
Write music in text-based notation formats:
MusicXML: A universal format that Finale, Sibelius, MuseScore, Dorico, and others can import.
LilyPond: A plain-text music engraving format. High quality, but has a steeper learning curve.
ABC notation: Simpler, used for folk music or quick sketches.
Create full scores in MusicXML:
You tell me instruments, key, meter, structure, and I’ll generate a score in MusicXML.
You can open this in Finale, Sibelius, MuseScore, or others.
Interpret and modify existing scores in text formats:
If you paste MusicXML, LilyPond, or ABC code, I can read, edit, or annotate it.
Convert textual description into music:
E.g., “Create a 4-bar melody for solo cello in G minor with syncopation in bar 3” → MusicXML/LilyPond.
❌ What I cannot do:
Open or edit .musx (Finale) or .sib (Sibelius) binary files directly.
Render sheet music directly inside this chat.
Hear or playback audio natively (but I can link you to tools that do).
If you're a Finale or Sibelius user:
You can:
Ask me to generate a MusicXML file.
Download it and open/import in Finale or Sibelius.
Continue editing graphically from there.
Can it export midi?
I have not tried, but Chat says, "Yes, I can generate music in MusicXML, LilyPond, or ABC notation, and you can easily convert any of those to MIDI using free tools like:
MuseScore (import MusicXML → export MIDI)
Frescobaldi (for LilyPond → MIDI)
abcMIDI (for ABC → MIDI)
If you want, just give me the description of the piece (instruments, key, tempo, etc.), and I’ll generate a MusicXML file you can turn into MIDI in two clicks."
Grok suggested AIVA, Staccato, and NotaGen.
Grok appeared to think AIVA’s prompt capability and library was more advanced than it was… although that could be because AIVA’s library for the free version is much smaller than for the paid. NotaGen is a GitHub app that’s more complicated to use. Haven’t tried Staccato yet.
As for asking them directly to generate MusicXML files, Claude can and Grok can’t. Unfortunately, MusicXML files are huge, requiring several lines of code for every single note, so Claude can only write a few bars before hitting its limit.
I don't know the appropriate place to ask. But can you do a post about who creates and how they create the AI thumbnails you use, that appear both here and unauthorized? They are neat and I am interested in AI images.
Sure, I plan to do that in a future post.
those are excellent.