Given the efforts to make AI conform to social justice narratives, although the humans may be replaced by a bot, I would not be surprised if the SJWs try to ensure the AI is as broken as they are. That said, it is to turn off or replace an AI than it is a whole department of SJWs
Despite today's flawed AI paradigm, I could see IBM's idea succeeding. When the HR-AI starts hallucinating, IBM will have an abundance of skilled engineers who will quickly create symbolic scaffolding and updates to make the AI work. It’s as if the coders are building the rest of the workforce.
Makes me wonder about the HR pervs, Karens, and glowies that IBM kept on.
Maybe we get lucky and it's a Kruschev-level purge. The political commissars have to be loathed by everyone, even their masters.
《Bennett's Phylactery, How the EEOC built America’s secret police, and got companies to pay for it》
“The government won’t tell you what the rules are: you have to guess. They dangle multimillion-dollar payouts in front of “marginalized” employees, and demand that employers anticipate what the EEOC’s subjective judgment of their actions might be. Discrimination complaints of this kind are heard by your local EEOC investigator, who takes statements and makes a “preliminary” determination as to whether illegal discrimination has occurred.
But the EEOC gets the outcome they want from the district judge 96% of the time — and attorneys on both sides know this — so only .1% of cases go to court. If the EEOC bureaucrat says to pay up, you pay up. The investigator has no obligation prove anything; they just have to find “sufficient reasonable cause” to believe that discrimination occurred.
And discrimination can be defined as broadly as “unwelcome verbal conduct” (i.e. saying things the complainant doesn’t like), so long as the investigator believes that the conduct is motivated by a discriminatory attitude toward protected characteristics.
In other words, you don’t have to shout slurs — if you criticize an employee’s performance, and the investigator thinks your criticism is unfair and that you are some flavor of bigot, that’s enough to justify a shakedown.
This means that virtually any interpersonal conflict in the workplace might cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and years of litigation — and employees in protected categories have massive incentives to generate or fabricate such conflicts.
…
Corporations don’t hire sprawling HR and DEI departments out of inertia, or because they’re afraid of popular pressure: they do it because they need an internal constituency that is as crazy as their craziest employee — that can keep the organization up to date with the latest progressive moral panic, and punish dissenting employees long before they generate a lawsuit. A DEI department is as practically necessary to the modern American corporation as Legal or Accounting.
Your local Chief Inclusion Officer is an agent of US state security, empowered to conduct intelligence and enforcement operations against ideological enemies beyond the jurisdiction of the regular authorities.
It’s a brilliant workaround — it would, of course, be unconstitutional for the regular police to monitor your private communications and punish you for ideological crimes — but the EEOC built a $30B network of internal informants and political officers (twice the size and 3X the budget of the KGB at its peak) who are not accountable to the Constitution, and got your boss to pay for it.”
I’ve been predicting this since ChatGPT-4 came out. HR is largely a way for supervisors to outsource their brain to a nerd or woman who has spent a ton of effort to learn about legal compliance. That was always going to be one of the easiest things for AI to outcompete. Even if my advice is better than AI, I can only respond to about 50 people a day, and AI can respond to more people, faster, and cheaper.
Lawyers could also be easily automated for the same reason, but the ABA cartel is so powerful they have successfully prevented AI in courtrooms. I’ll probably switch to a General Counsel or Employment Litigation position if the Government ever gets around to laying off HR, though I am sure they will be the last to do so.
With most white collar jobs being replaced by AI soon, where do you see this headed for the millions of people without jobs? Are they going to create a large scale war including biological weapons to cull the population?
No, I think deportations, reduced birth rates, and some form of universal basic income will suffice. Most white collar jobs are makework anyhow, so it's not as if there will be any loss of productivity.
When the government passes a regulation requiring paperwork and a corporation hires people to do that paperwork, how is that materially different than having the government pay people to dig holes and fill them in again?
How would the UBI be funded? I suggested to Chat that the state might impose a levy on AI-driven economic output to reclaim the imputed value of the human labor it replaces.
Chat replied, "How do you measure the imputed value of replaced workers?
A tax assessor says “You replaced 1,000 paralegals.”
The firm says “No, we just made the remaining five more productive.”
Or you get paid $12.50 an hour, have to pay for your own "dress code compatible" clothing, pay for your own mandated-licensing & training, are accountable (up to and including jail time) for failures resulting from corporate staffing, training, & other C-suite malfeasance, and are required to keep their phone with to at all times for use by corporate, and must take breaks (if taken) in situ.
We're lucky they even wash their hands and don't spit in our food. And that's the natives, never mind the illegals.
Interesting to me, is that the more State & fedgov, and activist attempts to force employers not to abuse the workforce, the nastier, more unpleasant, and demoralising the job sites become .
And that's without stealing most of that $12.50 for welfare programs that line NGO and government bureaucrat pockets.
Yep. Ever wonder why the people screaming for minimum wage increases seem not to have grunt-level jobs?
And to see the same happen to programmers warms this engineer's heart. The damage you people have done by infiltrating technical groups, especially research groups and their management, while larping as scientists and engineers has been incalculable.
The hilarious thing is that Google can’t do this, while IBM is now nimble and small enough to know not only that they need to automate their HR dept to survive, but to also realize they can sell their HR bots to other companies. On the other hand, Google has become as ossified as IBM was at their peak, but in a fraction of the time. Google delenda est.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/from-hiring-to-firing-entire-hr-team-terminated-after-managers-resume-fails-automated-screening/articleshow/113812083.cms
How apropos that this just appeared in my feed the other day. HR can't use screening tools properly. HR department fired en masse.
Amazing news
Given the efforts to make AI conform to social justice narratives, although the humans may be replaced by a bot, I would not be surprised if the SJWs try to ensure the AI is as broken as they are. That said, it is to turn off or replace an AI than it is a whole department of SJWs
Not only that, but HR people tend to be lazy and stupid. They won't be able to train the AIs to replicate their preferences.
Maybe IBM will now rise again and become the corporate titan it used to be.
Despite today's flawed AI paradigm, I could see IBM's idea succeeding. When the HR-AI starts hallucinating, IBM will have an abundance of skilled engineers who will quickly create symbolic scaffolding and updates to make the AI work. It’s as if the coders are building the rest of the workforce.
I just ran into this today, from 2022.
Makes me wonder about the HR pervs, Karens, and glowies that IBM kept on.
Maybe we get lucky and it's a Kruschev-level purge. The political commissars have to be loathed by everyone, even their masters.
《Bennett's Phylactery, How the EEOC built America’s secret police, and got companies to pay for it》
“The government won’t tell you what the rules are: you have to guess. They dangle multimillion-dollar payouts in front of “marginalized” employees, and demand that employers anticipate what the EEOC’s subjective judgment of their actions might be. Discrimination complaints of this kind are heard by your local EEOC investigator, who takes statements and makes a “preliminary” determination as to whether illegal discrimination has occurred.
But the EEOC gets the outcome they want from the district judge 96% of the time — and attorneys on both sides know this — so only .1% of cases go to court. If the EEOC bureaucrat says to pay up, you pay up. The investigator has no obligation prove anything; they just have to find “sufficient reasonable cause” to believe that discrimination occurred.
And discrimination can be defined as broadly as “unwelcome verbal conduct” (i.e. saying things the complainant doesn’t like), so long as the investigator believes that the conduct is motivated by a discriminatory attitude toward protected characteristics.
In other words, you don’t have to shout slurs — if you criticize an employee’s performance, and the investigator thinks your criticism is unfair and that you are some flavor of bigot, that’s enough to justify a shakedown.
This means that virtually any interpersonal conflict in the workplace might cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and years of litigation — and employees in protected categories have massive incentives to generate or fabricate such conflicts.
…
Corporations don’t hire sprawling HR and DEI departments out of inertia, or because they’re afraid of popular pressure: they do it because they need an internal constituency that is as crazy as their craziest employee — that can keep the organization up to date with the latest progressive moral panic, and punish dissenting employees long before they generate a lawsuit. A DEI department is as practically necessary to the modern American corporation as Legal or Accounting.
Your local Chief Inclusion Officer is an agent of US state security, empowered to conduct intelligence and enforcement operations against ideological enemies beyond the jurisdiction of the regular authorities.
It’s a brilliant workaround — it would, of course, be unconstitutional for the regular police to monitor your private communications and punish you for ideological crimes — but the EEOC built a $30B network of internal informants and political officers (twice the size and 3X the budget of the KGB at its peak) who are not accountable to the Constitution, and got your boss to pay for it.”
https://blog.exitgroup.us/p/how-the-eeoc-built-americas-secret
HR departments would have been destroyed eventually through HR's sheer incompetence AI is just bringing it about more quickly.
I’ve been predicting this since ChatGPT-4 came out. HR is largely a way for supervisors to outsource their brain to a nerd or woman who has spent a ton of effort to learn about legal compliance. That was always going to be one of the easiest things for AI to outcompete. Even if my advice is better than AI, I can only respond to about 50 people a day, and AI can respond to more people, faster, and cheaper.
Lawyers could also be easily automated for the same reason, but the ABA cartel is so powerful they have successfully prevented AI in courtrooms. I’ll probably switch to a General Counsel or Employment Litigation position if the Government ever gets around to laying off HR, though I am sure they will be the last to do so.
"Lawyers could also be easily automated for the same reason..."
And perhaps replace traffic court pro tem judges.
With most white collar jobs being replaced by AI soon, where do you see this headed for the millions of people without jobs? Are they going to create a large scale war including biological weapons to cull the population?
No, I think deportations, reduced birth rates, and some form of universal basic income will suffice. Most white collar jobs are makework anyhow, so it's not as if there will be any loss of productivity.
When the government passes a regulation requiring paperwork and a corporation hires people to do that paperwork, how is that materially different than having the government pay people to dig holes and fill them in again?
How would the UBI be funded? I suggested to Chat that the state might impose a levy on AI-driven economic output to reclaim the imputed value of the human labor it replaces.
Chat replied, "How do you measure the imputed value of replaced workers?
A tax assessor says “You replaced 1,000 paralegals.”
The firm says “No, we just made the remaining five more productive.”
It's going to be a bad time when a social justice HRAI gets implemented.
When a company can't simply hire someone competent enough to do the thing they're hired to do, it's going to collapse.
You want $15 minimum an hour? You can't even get my order right. Or you are too busy, literally doing tiktok videos behind the counter.
Or you get paid $12.50 an hour, have to pay for your own "dress code compatible" clothing, pay for your own mandated-licensing & training, are accountable (up to and including jail time) for failures resulting from corporate staffing, training, & other C-suite malfeasance, and are required to keep their phone with to at all times for use by corporate, and must take breaks (if taken) in situ.
We're lucky they even wash their hands and don't spit in our food. And that's the natives, never mind the illegals.
Interesting to me, is that the more State & fedgov, and activist attempts to force employers not to abuse the workforce, the nastier, more unpleasant, and demoralising the job sites become .
And that's without stealing most of that $12.50 for welfare programs that line NGO and government bureaucrat pockets.
Yep. Ever wonder why the people screaming for minimum wage increases seem not to have grunt-level jobs?
Goodbye Toby!
Real phone interview with an HR girl:
HR: Before we proceed we need you to allocate a time slot for an IQ test.
Me: Sure, what standard deviation should the ideal candidate fall into?
HR: Weeeell, it's not technically an IQ test.
Me: It's a chump test isn't it?
The girl had no idea what IQ was, she had no idea what she was doing at all. Obviously I failed the chump test way before being permitted to take it.
I'm glad I lived to see programmers finally get revenge on the misery that HR departments have been inflicting on us for decades.
And to see the same happen to programmers warms this engineer's heart. The damage you people have done by infiltrating technical groups, especially research groups and their management, while larping as scientists and engineers has been incalculable.
The hilarious thing is that Google can’t do this, while IBM is now nimble and small enough to know not only that they need to automate their HR dept to survive, but to also realize they can sell their HR bots to other companies. On the other hand, Google has become as ossified as IBM was at their peak, but in a fraction of the time. Google delenda est.
I really feel bad for Google HQ’s janitors.
Google is far too converged 💩 to do it. Not to mention compromised.
I see what you did there… Google has become a hive of cheap Indian H1B labor.
This is excellent news. They could always learn to code.... Oh wait..